Sunday, August 9, 2009 10:38 AM
From: "siva_rajc@yahoo.com"
Dear friends and Bloggers
Lim Guan Eng who potrait as a savouir of Indian in the last General Election has shown his and his political allies true color by washing his hand on Kg.Buah Pala Land Matter.
To add more salt in the wound,he said Indians always demands more and very hard to satify them. Bravo Lim Guan Eng for accredited such a remarks to us, Indians who fought and ensured your victory in Penang,perak and selangor.
I still don't seem to digest,why we Indian bloggers and columist doesn't forumized this issue and spread Lim Guan Eng's bertrayal to Indians in Kg.Buah Pala and his remarks addressing us as over demanding and unjustified.
He should pay the price for his remarks and betrayal to us. Lim Kit siang,karpal and Anwar whom we trusted and idolized turn the face to us and started to blame us for our demand" hey look so called THE BOSS, we are not over demanding or unjustified, we only asked what belongs to us, Kg.Buah Pala was sold under the new adminstration, and I have all the statutory evidence to prove that so if you want to play politics using our hard earned heritage and rights then you shall get ready for your disastorous ending in coming Election.
We have been victimized in all circumstances. BN or PR end of the day we indians are still in deep shit.
PR even worst, in only 1.5 years of controling, they have neglected the Indians and has not fullfilled any of 2008 election promised to Indians.
So morale of the story is never trusted leaders whom are desperate and threw empty promises to us in coming election, we have to think as a analytical community where we have to analyse technically and logically the contribution,fullfilled manifestos and efforts taken by any parties before we cast our votes, then we would posesses a significant demanding power although we are minority( we have shaken the 52 year old Government) so we are the deciding factor in Malaysian Politics.
Think friends and bloggers ,you can make the differences in our Community.
This is totally my apolitical view.
Thanks
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Wednesday, August 12, 2009
Sad ending for Kg Buah Pala Residents
Dear friends, & Bloggers,
I share Kg Buah Pala residents pain and frustration. Let us not jump over the gun and be too emotional. Heritage village due to 200 years and why no registration or other means of ownership been initiated for the past 52 years by the residents committe or Indian based political parties? I am not trying to add salt to the wound , let us be practical and realistic. Except our mistakes and ignorance.
Damage have been done by the previous state goverment and stop accussing the PKR goverment. Legally speaking the Kg Buah Pala residents are fighting at a loosing battle. This shows how our Indian society been influence by emotions and sentiments.
Thanks.
"Vathu Malaai"
Sunday, August 9, 2009 6:12 AM
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I share Kg Buah Pala residents pain and frustration. Let us not jump over the gun and be too emotional. Heritage village due to 200 years and why no registration or other means of ownership been initiated for the past 52 years by the residents committe or Indian based political parties? I am not trying to add salt to the wound , let us be practical and realistic. Except our mistakes and ignorance.
Damage have been done by the previous state goverment and stop accussing the PKR goverment. Legally speaking the Kg Buah Pala residents are fighting at a loosing battle. This shows how our Indian society been influence by emotions and sentiments.
Thanks.
"Vathu Malaai"
Sunday, August 9, 2009 6:12 AM
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kg buah pala - view from the top
The affected indian at kg buah pala, dont bark at CM thinking others will help you out.
You guys already creating a block by asking him to step down, and zipping possible channel of help
Do you think the BN will help ? federal govt have all the fund....the truth, they just dont care at all
Why the need to reserve the Kg Pala, when u need to change then accept the
change like the rest(as someone said you dont have proof of doc).....only person who can help
currently is Guan Eng, take a view from the top to down not
from down look up...in the end the loosers are going to be kg pala residences not
the advicers surrounding them. Be smart, If you cant fight them u join them
"shita hiro"
You guys already creating a block by asking him to step down, and zipping possible channel of help
Do you think the BN will help ? federal govt have all the fund....the truth, they just dont care at all
Why the need to reserve the Kg Pala, when u need to change then accept the
change like the rest(as someone said you dont have proof of doc).....only person who can help
currently is Guan Eng, take a view from the top to down not
from down look up...in the end the loosers are going to be kg pala residences not
the advicers surrounding them. Be smart, If you cant fight them u join them
"shita hiro"
Indians : emotional or intuitive society ?
Hi Everyone,
I TOTALLY agree with VJ.
I too feel that our Indians need to have a MAJOR paradigm shift.
Stop expecting things from political drivers.
You have your future in your hands to decide.
How to go about it is another issue.
What needs to be done is for you to find out.
I was amazed how little our Indians know about what to do, how to do and whom to see to get things done. (SAD). Why do you think this is happening?
Purely because every political "driver" has stressed to our Indians that we have to depend on them (follow protocal). Otherwise no one will listen to us and assist.
This I feel is NOT true. I have approached certain departments myself and have been assisted without any setbacks. How's that possible. Well its again the fear created to our people regarding the non response from the relevant departments. Another factor will be the ignorance of our people of knowledge. Every family should instill this crave to seek knowledge no matter what it takes.
Please comment!
MG.
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, kamban05 wrote:
From: kamban05
Indians : emotional or intuitive society ?
Date: Wednesday, 5 August, 2009, 6:07 PM
I was attending some business and education seminars in ipoh . Speaking to the (indian) presenter later on and asked him about the ground responses. He said the response from indians and malays lacking . It seems it's easier to gather indians for demonstration rather than such self-intuitive and self development activities .
This invokes our mind to think what's going wrong . Is our people rely solely on politics ? Is our people reluctant to change ?
Not just about money matters how about knowledge seeking ?
We've seen in this group people questioning and debating on yes or no to invest ASN 1M'sia . This is good debate as when you question it means you're thinking making this a healthy forum .
Perhaps the 'paradigm shift' in mentality has to start from home . Start with your brothers/sisters/ children .
Just remember , neither Anwar nor Najib going to knock every 2mill Indian houses and give away Rm1000 voucher monthly .
Your future in your hands . I always tell my friends , politics is like 'polishing car' . The outlook has to be nice to be tempting to sit in and drive ; but upto you to maintain the engine and other internal mechanics .
Let's stir the fire now for brigther future !
Regards,
VJ
I TOTALLY agree with VJ.
I too feel that our Indians need to have a MAJOR paradigm shift.
Stop expecting things from political drivers.
You have your future in your hands to decide.
How to go about it is another issue.
What needs to be done is for you to find out.
I was amazed how little our Indians know about what to do, how to do and whom to see to get things done. (SAD). Why do you think this is happening?
Purely because every political "driver" has stressed to our Indians that we have to depend on them (follow protocal). Otherwise no one will listen to us and assist.
This I feel is NOT true. I have approached certain departments myself and have been assisted without any setbacks. How's that possible. Well its again the fear created to our people regarding the non response from the relevant departments. Another factor will be the ignorance of our people of knowledge. Every family should instill this crave to seek knowledge no matter what it takes.
Please comment!
MG.
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, kamban05
From: kamban05
Indians : emotional or intuitive society ?
Date: Wednesday, 5 August, 2009, 6:07 PM
I was attending some business and education seminars in ipoh . Speaking to the (indian) presenter later on and asked him about the ground responses. He said the response from indians and malays lacking . It seems it's easier to gather indians for demonstration rather than such self-intuitive and self development activities .
This invokes our mind to think what's going wrong . Is our people rely solely on politics ? Is our people reluctant to change ?
Not just about money matters how about knowledge seeking ?
We've seen in this group people questioning and debating on yes or no to invest ASN 1M'sia . This is good debate as when you question it means you're thinking making this a healthy forum .
Perhaps the 'paradigm shift' in mentality has to start from home . Start with your brothers/sisters/ children .
Just remember , neither Anwar nor Najib going to knock every 2mill Indian houses and give away Rm1000 voucher monthly .
Your future in your hands . I always tell my friends , politics is like 'polishing car' . The outlook has to be nice to be tempting to sit in and drive ; but upto you to maintain the engine and other internal mechanics .
Let's stir the fire now for brigther future !
Regards,
VJ
Re: The Truth - Kg. Buah Pala
"Mike Jayabalan"
rightly said bro......... ......... ........lets put this issue behind and get on with our lives....... .don't become scape goat for politcians.
how many of u guys know the thugs produced by that area.
Even now the children of this villages are not interested to rear cows, goats or chickens anymore..... .....what we have now are the elders, the last of the mohicans doing the job......... .......so don't be carried away with indian sentiments and talk about heritage. Out of nowhere, the relatives are pouring in to get a share....... .where were they previously?? ???
Lets Concentrate on building an educated society, implant correct values and exercise tolerance.
Most importantly indians should respect each other....... ......... .look at the malays, u go to mosque, wedding or funeral,they greet each other, hug each other, immaterial whether they know each other.
Now compare the indians, go to temple , they stare at you......... ....go to wedding, they stare at you without a smile....go to funeral, they stare at you.....go to thaipusam, they beat you up ............ is this our godamn UNITY,
Wake up la Fellow Indians..... ......... .....change this ............ ....lets see a smiling indian when we cross each others path. Lets greet each other at all religious gatherings, a simple smile gesture would do.
sorry for being harsh....... ......... ......but this buah pala issue is wasting our time and energy
rightly said bro......... ......... ........lets put this issue behind and get on with our lives....... .don't become scape goat for politcians.
how many of u guys know the thugs produced by that area.
Even now the children of this villages are not interested to rear cows, goats or chickens anymore..... .....what we have now are the elders, the last of the mohicans doing the job......... .......so don't be carried away with indian sentiments and talk about heritage. Out of nowhere, the relatives are pouring in to get a share....... .where were they previously?? ???
Lets Concentrate on building an educated society, implant correct values and exercise tolerance.
Most importantly indians should respect each other....... ......... .look at the malays, u go to mosque, wedding or funeral,they greet each other, hug each other, immaterial whether they know each other.
Now compare the indians, go to temple , they stare at you......... ....go to wedding, they stare at you without a smile....go to funeral, they stare at you.....go to thaipusam, they beat you up ............ is this our godamn UNITY,
Wake up la Fellow Indians..... ......... .....change this ............ ....lets see a smiling indian when we cross each others path. Lets greet each other at all religious gatherings, a simple smile gesture would do.
sorry for being harsh....... ......... ......but this buah pala issue is wasting our time and energy
Dear brothers n sisters, i understand that some Indian are going thru hard shape in their life but i wonder why Indian always waste thier time by doing hopeless things. We have many ways to come up in our life. First of all Kg Buah Pala land doesnt belongs to Indians (its goverment land) then why fight and insult our Indian community. There are so many oppertunity around but we fail to grab it. Nobody is there to help us unless we help ourself. Residens of Kg Buah Pala should have own the land long long time ago but crying now at last minute. Honestly i dont blame the goverment but we act very slow. Lets think different and create a good image for Indian.
Never the less i have a message for Hindraf ' Pls dont sharp the knifes, insteed sharp our brains'
Regards,Samy
Never the less i have a message for Hindraf ' Pls dont sharp the knifes, insteed sharp our brains'
Regards,Samy
Friday, July 24, 2009
கம்போங் புவா பாலா!!
200 ஆண்டுகளா இருந்தார்கள்?
200 ஆண்டுகள் அந்த கம்பத்தில் இருந்தோம்! என்பது பெருமைக்குரிய விஷயமா?
சற்று யோசித்து பாருங்கள்.
சட்ட விரோதமாக ஒரு நிலத்தில் இதுவரை இருந்துவிட்டு, இப்போது பழி ஒரு பக்கம் பாவம் ஒரு பக்கமா? இல்லை இல்லை. இதைதான் முழு பூசணிக்காயை ஒரு பிடி சோற்றில் மறைப்பது என்பார்களோ!
500 ஆண்டுகள் கூட, மாற்றான் நிலத்தில் இருக்கலாம் என்பது நியாயமா? அரசாங்கம், என்ன ஊருக்கு இளைத்தவனா? இது ஒரு தனியார் நிலமாக இருந்திருந்தால், இந்நேரம் நிலைமை தலைகீழ். இவர்களுக்கு போராட யார் வந்திருப்பார்? இப்போது தெரிகிறதா?எல்லாம் அரசியல்; அக்கறை அல்ல! எல்லாம் நாடகம் ! ஆடு நனையுதே..ஓநாய் கதறுது!
இங்கு குடியிருந்த மக்கள் கொஞ்சம் யோசிக்க வேண்டும். கேட்க யாருமில்லை, கட்டணம் எதுவுமில்லை என்றால் எவ்வளவு காலம் வேண்டுமானாலும் தங்கிக்கலாமா? இதைப்பற்றி இதுவரை யோசித்தது கூட இல்லையா? ஏதாவது ஒரு நடவடிக்கை? எதுவும் இல்லையே!
அரசு நிலமாக இருந்த நிலத்தில் 200 ஆண்டுகள், 4 தலைமுறைகள் இருந்த நிலத்தை மீட்க, ஆண்டு கணக்காய் அதிக வாய்ப்புகள் இருந்தும், சும்மா இருந்துவிட்டு, இன்று தனியார் நிலமாய் மாறியபின், அய்யோ..அய்யய்யோ என்று அலறுவதா?
சரி நிலம் தருகிறேன்..200 ஆண்டுகளுக்கான வாடகை கொடு என்று கேட்டால் என்ன செய்வீர்கள்? அதையும் தவறு என்று சொல்வீரா? உன் நிலமாய் இருந்தால் விடுவீரா?
200 ஆண்டுகள் வாயை மூடி கிடந்த அரசாங்கம் இப்போது துரோகியா? இப்போது திடீரென அக்கறை வந்தது போல் நடிக்கும் கட்சிகள் சகோதரனா?
உங்களை வைத்து ஆதாயம் தேட புறப்பட்டு விட்டன பல கட்சிகள். உங்களை எறிய விட்டு, அவர்கள் குளிர் காய்கிறார்கள். விளம்பரத்தில் மயங்கி விடாதீர்கள். உங்கள் தேவைகளை நீங்களே கேளுங்கள். நிச்சயம் உதவி கிடைக்கும். நடந்ததை ஆராய்ச்சி செய்து என்ன இருக்கு? நாளை என்ற நாளை நமக்கு சாதகமாக மாற்றுவோம்!
(குறிப்பு: இப்போது அரசியக் உதவியாளரான தியோ பெங் ஹாக் என்ற பிரச்சனை அதிக விளம்பரம் கிடைப்பதால், எல்லா கட்சிகளும் அங்கேதான் பாயும் படுக்கையுமாய் இருக்கிறார்கள்.)
200 ஆண்டுகள் அந்த கம்பத்தில் இருந்தோம்! என்பது பெருமைக்குரிய விஷயமா?
சற்று யோசித்து பாருங்கள்.
சட்ட விரோதமாக ஒரு நிலத்தில் இதுவரை இருந்துவிட்டு, இப்போது பழி ஒரு பக்கம் பாவம் ஒரு பக்கமா? இல்லை இல்லை. இதைதான் முழு பூசணிக்காயை ஒரு பிடி சோற்றில் மறைப்பது என்பார்களோ!
500 ஆண்டுகள் கூட, மாற்றான் நிலத்தில் இருக்கலாம் என்பது நியாயமா? அரசாங்கம், என்ன ஊருக்கு இளைத்தவனா? இது ஒரு தனியார் நிலமாக இருந்திருந்தால், இந்நேரம் நிலைமை தலைகீழ். இவர்களுக்கு போராட யார் வந்திருப்பார்? இப்போது தெரிகிறதா?எல்லாம் அரசியல்; அக்கறை அல்ல! எல்லாம் நாடகம் ! ஆடு நனையுதே..ஓநாய் கதறுது!
இங்கு குடியிருந்த மக்கள் கொஞ்சம் யோசிக்க வேண்டும். கேட்க யாருமில்லை, கட்டணம் எதுவுமில்லை என்றால் எவ்வளவு காலம் வேண்டுமானாலும் தங்கிக்கலாமா? இதைப்பற்றி இதுவரை யோசித்தது கூட இல்லையா? ஏதாவது ஒரு நடவடிக்கை? எதுவும் இல்லையே!
அரசு நிலமாக இருந்த நிலத்தில் 200 ஆண்டுகள், 4 தலைமுறைகள் இருந்த நிலத்தை மீட்க, ஆண்டு கணக்காய் அதிக வாய்ப்புகள் இருந்தும், சும்மா இருந்துவிட்டு, இன்று தனியார் நிலமாய் மாறியபின், அய்யோ..அய்யய்யோ என்று அலறுவதா?
சரி நிலம் தருகிறேன்..200 ஆண்டுகளுக்கான வாடகை கொடு என்று கேட்டால் என்ன செய்வீர்கள்? அதையும் தவறு என்று சொல்வீரா? உன் நிலமாய் இருந்தால் விடுவீரா?
200 ஆண்டுகள் வாயை மூடி கிடந்த அரசாங்கம் இப்போது துரோகியா? இப்போது திடீரென அக்கறை வந்தது போல் நடிக்கும் கட்சிகள் சகோதரனா?
உங்களை வைத்து ஆதாயம் தேட புறப்பட்டு விட்டன பல கட்சிகள். உங்களை எறிய விட்டு, அவர்கள் குளிர் காய்கிறார்கள். விளம்பரத்தில் மயங்கி விடாதீர்கள். உங்கள் தேவைகளை நீங்களே கேளுங்கள். நிச்சயம் உதவி கிடைக்கும். நடந்ததை ஆராய்ச்சி செய்து என்ன இருக்கு? நாளை என்ற நாளை நமக்கு சாதகமாக மாற்றுவோம்!
(குறிப்பு: இப்போது அரசியக் உதவியாளரான தியோ பெங் ஹாக் என்ற பிரச்சனை அதிக விளம்பரம் கிடைப்பதால், எல்லா கட்சிகளும் அங்கேதான் பாயும் படுக்கையுமாய் இருக்கிறார்கள்.)
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